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		<title>By: crystal</title>
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		<dc:creator>crystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On what grounds would you sue a marriage counselor for being a feminist? That&#039;s like suing your lawyer for being black or suing your child&#039;s school for allowing an Asian teacher to teach the class. 

Feminists are aware of the inequalities in marriage... for example, even in double income homes where both spouses have a job, women often are stuck with the majority of the housework to do. Suppose both have 8 hour work days but the woman has to do 3 hours of chores at night? I wonder why the marriage is failing!! A feminist counselor would point out this inequality in distribution of work, which would help correct some of the problems in this marriage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On what grounds would you sue a marriage counselor for being a feminist? That&#8217;s like suing your lawyer for being black or suing your child&#8217;s school for allowing an Asian teacher to teach the class. </p>
<p>Feminists are aware of the inequalities in marriage&#8230; for example, even in double income homes where both spouses have a job, women often are stuck with the majority of the housework to do. Suppose both have 8 hour work days but the woman has to do 3 hours of chores at night? I wonder why the marriage is failing!! A feminist counselor would point out this inequality in distribution of work, which would help correct some of the problems in this marriage.</p>
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		<title>By: Lord Voldemort</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lord Voldemort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d much rather prefer a neutral to counsel. No pro-female, no pro-male.

Nobody can sue anyone unless damage is done or if it is clear or proved that this &#039;feminist counsellor&#039; was indulging in intentional malpractice to ruin the marriage.

Otherwise just on the basis that the counsellor is feminist, no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d much rather prefer a neutral to counsel. No pro-female, no pro-male.</p>
<p>Nobody can sue anyone unless damage is done or if it is clear or proved that this &#8216;feminist counsellor&#8217; was indulging in intentional malpractice to ruin the marriage.</p>
<p>Otherwise just on the basis that the counsellor is feminist, no.</p>
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		<title>By: doodlebugjimv3</title>
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		<dc:creator>doodlebugjimv3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those of you who treat this question lightly - more fool you if you think you will get unbiased marriage advice from a feminist counsellor or lawyer. I have seen them in action and to say their action are unprofessional is to state the obvious. 

Here is an example that law professor Aya Gruber (note: not a phony feminist professor) gives: 

[My client Jamal] had been arrested ten days ago after his eighteen-year-old girlfriend, Britney, called the police and claimed that he punched her and threw a plate at her. As of late, domestic violence advocates had been subpoenaing defendants to testify at CPO hearings in the hopes of producing self-incriminating statements that could be used against defendants in later criminal trials.3 I am here to make sure that the judge honors Jamal’s Fifth Amendment privilege.

A few minutes before we enter the courtroom Britney shuffles up. ...She says, “The other lady [her lawyer] told me I have to be here, but I didn’t want to come.” She goes on to explain ...that she only called the police “cause I was mad and wanted him out the house.” She does not want to pursue charges against Jamal and adamantly refuses to comply with any no-contact order.4 Then, in a more hushed tone, she asks, “What if I just leave now and don’t show up later—will they drop the case?”... I say, “Britney, I can’t tell you what to do. I am not your attorney. However, let’s sit down, and you can tell me what happened between you two.” Just as I am finishing my sentence, a young woman rushes up and inserts herself between Jamal, Britney, and me. She is blonde, no more than twenty-four, with a hip haircut and an enormous diamond engagement ring.... She glares at me and demands, “What are you doing talking to my victim, and why is your defendant near her? He’s violating the no-contact order!” Britney turns to the advocate and protests, “I don’t want to be here, and Ms. Gruber told me I could leave.” The advocate shoots me an accusatory glance, so I defensively reply, “No, I told her that I could not give her any advice on what to do, but, as you can see, she does not want to pursue this case.” The advocate snaps, “Well, we’ll just see about that. Come on Britney we need to talk, away from them.” 

With that, she leads Britney away through the mass of humanity gathered in the bustling hall. Ten minutes later, we are all seated at counsel table. I listen as the judge orders a renewable one year civil-protection order, including a requirement that Jamal have no contact with Britney or the baby.14 Britney looks down as the judge reads the order (Gruber 2007, pp.742-6).

Does anyone think that this sort of thing doesn&#039;t happen all the time when feminists are allowed to deal with problems between men and women? Yes, feminists should be barred from positions of influence in gender-sensitive cases. Could you get a good case against them? Don&#039;t know, but perhaps this Roy Hollander could</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those of you who treat this question lightly &#8211; more fool you if you think you will get unbiased marriage advice from a feminist counsellor or lawyer. I have seen them in action and to say their action are unprofessional is to state the obvious. </p>
<p>Here is an example that law professor Aya Gruber (note: not a phony feminist professor) gives: </p>
<p>[My client Jamal] had been arrested ten days ago after his eighteen-year-old girlfriend, Britney, called the police and claimed that he punched her and threw a plate at her. As of late, domestic violence advocates had been subpoenaing defendants to testify at CPO hearings in the hopes of producing self-incriminating statements that could be used against defendants in later criminal trials.3 I am here to make sure that the judge honors Jamal’s Fifth Amendment privilege.</p>
<p>A few minutes before we enter the courtroom Britney shuffles up. &#8230;She says, “The other lady [her lawyer] told me I have to be here, but I didn’t want to come.” She goes on to explain &#8230;that she only called the police “cause I was mad and wanted him out the house.” She does not want to pursue charges against Jamal and adamantly refuses to comply with any no-contact order.4 Then, in a more hushed tone, she asks, “What if I just leave now and don’t show up later—will they drop the case?”&#8230; I say, “Britney, I can’t tell you what to do. I am not your attorney. However, let’s sit down, and you can tell me what happened between you two.” Just as I am finishing my sentence, a young woman rushes up and inserts herself between Jamal, Britney, and me. She is blonde, no more than twenty-four, with a hip haircut and an enormous diamond engagement ring&#8230;. She glares at me and demands, “What are you doing talking to my victim, and why is your defendant near her? He’s violating the no-contact order!” Britney turns to the advocate and protests, “I don’t want to be here, and Ms. Gruber told me I could leave.” The advocate shoots me an accusatory glance, so I defensively reply, “No, I told her that I could not give her any advice on what to do, but, as you can see, she does not want to pursue this case.” The advocate snaps, “Well, we’ll just see about that. Come on Britney we need to talk, away from them.” </p>
<p>With that, she leads Britney away through the mass of humanity gathered in the bustling hall. Ten minutes later, we are all seated at counsel table. I listen as the judge orders a renewable one year civil-protection order, including a requirement that Jamal have no contact with Britney or the baby.14 Britney looks down as the judge reads the order (Gruber 2007, pp.742-6).</p>
<p>Does anyone think that this sort of thing doesn&#8217;t happen all the time when feminists are allowed to deal with problems between men and women? Yes, feminists should be barred from positions of influence in gender-sensitive cases. Could you get a good case against them? Don&#8217;t know, but perhaps this Roy Hollander could</p>
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		<title>By: ProfessorC</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProfessorC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.  Most feminists believe marriage is a partnership.  Good view for a counselor don&#039;t you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.  Most feminists believe marriage is a partnership.  Good view for a counselor don&#8217;t you think.</p>
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		<title>By: goya80</title>
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		<dc:creator>goya80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it is the responsibility of the couple to do their research on the counselor before they go to her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it is the responsibility of the couple to do their research on the counselor before they go to her.</p>
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		<title>By: R. Gaspari</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. Gaspari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could try to sue but no attorney would take the case knowing full well that the Feminist would easily deny assumption of a duty, hence no breach, hence the feminist couldn&#039;t have deviated from the standard of care because the feminist determines what the standard is on a situation-dependent basis, so the attorney won&#039;t accept such a claim which cannot be won.  The Feminist card trumps all others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could try to sue but no attorney would take the case knowing full well that the Feminist would easily deny assumption of a duty, hence no breach, hence the feminist couldn&#8217;t have deviated from the standard of care because the feminist determines what the standard is on a situation-dependent basis, so the attorney won&#8217;t accept such a claim which cannot be won.  The Feminist card trumps all others.</p>
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		<title>By: Laela (Layla)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laela (Layla)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually no, you cannot sue her based upon the fact her political views do not coincide with your own; however, it&#039;s a good practice before any type of consultation is to have the person screened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually no, you cannot sue her based upon the fact her political views do not coincide with your own; however, it&#8217;s a good practice before any type of consultation is to have the person screened.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t realize it was a crime to believe women have the same rights as men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t realize it was a crime to believe women have the same rights as men.</p>
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		<title>By: George J</title>
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		<dc:creator>George J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A marriage counselor who is a feminist would definately encourage your wife to divorce you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A marriage counselor who is a feminist would definately encourage your wife to divorce you.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No more than they could sue a man who was more apt to side with the husband/boyfriend.
ANY advice given is yours to take or to not. If it was that bad you would have seen it within the first few visits and should have stopped. If you continued anyhow...that was your choice and your loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No more than they could sue a man who was more apt to side with the husband/boyfriend.<br />
ANY advice given is yours to take or to not. If it was that bad you would have seen it within the first few visits and should have stopped. If you continued anyhow&#8230;that was your choice and your loss.</p>
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